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Lindsay:

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the passive income examiner today. We have a special guest who's been with us on the podcast before, but it's been a little while he was one of the first guests, Martin Ebungue, all the way from the other side of the world. Martin, tell me a little about you let's catch up. It's been a while.


Martin:

Yeah. Yeah. It's been a while. I think what was it like December, January 2021 or something that I was in the show really cool experience. I really liked it. And yeah, so I'm, you know, calling from, Bali, which is on the other side of the world as you said, and yeah, things are going pretty great here. A lot has happened since, I was last on the show, so, you know, maybe we can catch up on that and, you know, see what's new.


Lindsay:

Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm gonna tell you, I recently referred to you in an episode as the automation king, because in the last year, you know, since we talked, I have yet to find somebody who, as adept as you are at automating businesses and building these online business systems, right. It's not just a one and done it's a whole system and it feeds itself and ultimately produces income for you so that you can go do the thing that you love your passion, which is still helping the children, there in Bali. So I just wanna just kind of refresh everybody and the new listeners about what you spend your days doing, because it's such a worthy cause, please share what you do.


Martin:

Yeah. yeah, as you said, my kind of like my skill is automating businesses. even before the business is built, I already know how it's going to run without me. So that's one skill that I acquired over the years, and that allows me to create more and more and more businesses. And, and as time goes by, they are you know, easier to run, easier to build, and then they just run themselves. And, wow. That basically leaves me time to, you know, take care of, kids who are here from, orphanages here in, Indonesia and basically you know, mentoring these kids and while taking them, like I have activities with kids every, single day now, in the beginning it was one day, two, three days a week or something. And then now it's every single day.


Martin:

So, it's usually through sports, basketball, football, we have dents for girls, uh, jujitsu, uh, mu Thai. We have movie nights on, we take them to like a, open air, movie, because you know, here it's always sunny and stuff. So it's, it's really, really cool. And I'm, very happy that, you know, my, businesses are set up in the way that allows me to, basically give back to this beautiful country that, you know, welcomes me, you know, Indonesia. And body's very, very nice. I'm getting a lot from the island and I, just wanna make sure that I, you know, I give back to the people and, you know, kids, you know, they're the future. So, you know


Lindsay:

Yeah. Well then, and I think, I think in the last episode you mentioned that most of these kids, just because they are now orphans would really just have low entry jobs, but you're teaching them your skills of business online business and giving them a possibility at a better future, which to me is really dear to my heart because that's, you know, that's really what I'm about. That's what a lot of entrepreneurs are about is, you know, being able to help people have a better life than what, you know, what they might have. So I just think that's just such an awesome thing to be doing. Um, and yeah, your story obviously resonated with me and stuck with me because I think about you throughout, like, when I'm looking into my business, I'm like, okay, how would Martin look at this? What could I do differently?


Lindsay:

Like, it's really inspired me over the years to just think differently and reach for a higher new level of simplicity so that I can really focus, like, but here's the interesting thing after doing this podcast for a year and interviewing a lot of people, , mm-hmm, I have yet to find somebody who has done it as, as skilled as you are to the level that you are doing, you know, we've talked about lead generation, we've talked about how to use, you know, get a ton of followers on TikTok or how to all of these different strategies to drive traffic. Right? Yeah. But never has it been the level we're gonna talk about today. So I'm excited to have you back here and to talk about this, even in more detail. So last year when we talked, you had built your business is basically doing emails like capturing email lists and marketing to people really efficiently, um, among other things. But that was the primary thing that we had talked about. What's changed for you in your business? Like what is one of the primary things that's new in, in the last year?


Martin:

Um, the, uh, so I, uh, I met a guy who, I mean, this guy, he opened my eyes to like new possibilities, like stuff that I didn't even know existed, you know, like kind of like the matrix he gave me the, what was it, the blue peel or something. And, uh, thanks to this guy started, I interview this guy and then I realized that there are so many things that I didn't even know were possible that I could actually do. If I just now I needed, I, I knew what I wanted to do. I just had to figure out what, uh, how and so, um, I was able to, uh, either learn some of those skills myself or find people who can help me get to, to this level. So, I mean now, um, I'm still working a lot with email because email works, you know, works really well, but I'm doing so many different things that like a year ago, honestly, when we spoke, I had no idea this stuff existed.


Martin:

So, uh, over the years, I think the, just this year I have, I think I've developed like 10 new tools, uh, for my business that make my life a lot easier. And one thing that I, um, I, I kind of changed was I was building those tools incrementally over the years, uh, because you know, my, my needs were evolving. My ambitions were evolving, my business was evolving. So I was adding bricks on top of existing businesses. And, um, recently I said, Hey, you know, what, if, if you had a clean slate and you had to the tool today, how would you build it? So, yeah, instead of, you know, uh, taking bits and pieces that I, that I added over time, how would you build the simplest system possible today with the knowledge that you have today and, uh, and basically make it working like, you know, five clicks maximum, and then you go do whatever it is that you have to do.


Martin:

And so that's one of the big things that, that I've done this year. And I've created a whole system where in like a few clicks, the whole, the whole thing is handled, including the traffic, everything, the offers, everything it's, so that's one or one thing it's also because some of my, uh, some of my friends, people I know were asking me, okay, how do you do this? I want to learn how that sounds complicated, you know, could you make it simpler? And I did it for a few of my friends and I basically got them to better test my, my tool, because the, I wanted someone who doesn't know anything about anything to be able to create a business in, let's say, 72 hours, you have a business that's running and then you, you don't have to touch it anymore. And, uh, so it's been very interesting, getting feedback of people are not technical and they're not, you know, marketing savvy or anything like that to, to be able to make it better and more efficient. So that's, that's pretty much what, what has changed or simplicity and make it, you know, things even simpler.


Lindsay:

That's be that's cool. Well, I mean, one of the things you said is like, you know, when I get an idea, I just figure out a way to develop it. And I know you and I have had some conversations and really you have, this is, what's really fascinating and cool. Cuz a lot of people listening to that, they're gonna think, oh man, I could never develop something like that. But Martin, you're not actually the developer. You have a team now after doing this for a while, people who are really smart. And I remember the last episode you go, I just find people who are smarter than me. And we work together. I tell 'em my ideas and they help me put 'em out there. And so, you know, now you sit back and you spend your time like coming up with these ideas and then you have the people and the resources to help you execute.


Lindsay:

and to me that's an important piece of the business because it, it just goes to back to this mindset of, I'm not looking to be hands on in my business, but I, you're still the creator. You're still like the, the mastermind behind, you know, what do they say? Let the, uh, the yellow brick road, what is the guy that's behind the curtain? And , I'm trying a blank, but you're, you're like that guy in the, um, wizard of Oz. That's who it is. Oz. Oh, um, yeah. So it's pretty neat. And so what does exactly does this, this program do, I mean, you say it sets up a whole business, is it just lead generation, but, or is it more than that?


Martin:

Oh, it's it's way more than this. It's so one thing I wanted to say based on what you just said is that I, I, now I have the team to do it, uh, because that can also be intimidating for people saying, Hey, look, I don't have, I don't have the money to hire developers and stuff like, like, you know, paying a developer and everything. a lot of these developers, like all of them, actually, I, I don't like they don't work for me specifically. These are freelancers, right? Meaning that I will contact them when I need them. So, you know, I don't want people to get the wrong idea of, oh, now I need to hire this person and pay them like a hundred grand or something. I don't have the money. no, I just, when I have an idea, I so I worked with a developer in the past.


Martin:

If they're good, every time I have a development, I just go back to them, you know? So they're happy because they get repeat business me. I'm happy because I can get stuff done without having to hire a developer. And that's pretty much how it works. So don't be intimidated by, you know, when a team could doesn't necessarily mean a team of people who are on your payroll is just, you need to know who to ask. And that's one of the skills, you know, just know who to ask. So I have a list of people. I contact them, Hey, do you have time for me? And, and now, um, because I always come back to them and I make sure that I don't squeeze their margins or, you know, try to, you know, negotiate prices too much and stuff like that. They've pretty much become, became kind of like my employees, even though they don't work for me, we, we speak every day, you know? Yeah. So, yeah.


Lindsay:

I believe that. And yes, I'm glad you, you re brought that up because that's true. And that's what I was thinking was a team, but you're right. That is something that could definitely deter people thinking, oh man, I can even hiring a developer as a freelancer may sound intimidating. Especially if, you know, you don't know a, you don't know what you don't know. So you're just calling somebody up and being like, I've got an idea. Are you able to do it?


Martin:

Yeah. Yeah.


Lindsay:

But you took the time. I mean, we talked a year ago, so people can go back and listen to that episode, but you, we did go into a lot of detail then about how you found people and how you worked through that beginning stages of trusting and building up that trust. And now that you, and that's what I guess I meant like now you have these resources of people that, you know, are qualified mm-hmm and capable and will get the job done in the time. Yeah. That they say, so that's great. I'm glad you brought that up. Yeah. Yeah. So for anybody listening, you definitely need to go back and listen to the first episode, cuz we're gonna like go into new things today and you can still catch a lot of the old stuff in the first one. So I'll make, I'll make sure to link it in the show notes for sure. Okay. So this idea that you have, we're talking about, it's more than lead generation. It's, it's, it's a whole business package. So tell me more about that.


Martin:

Yeah. So, um, so basically in order to make money online, uh, you need three components minimum, okay. Obviously if you have more, then you can make more money and you can scale and stuff, but you need three components. So you need, uh, a page where people are gonna go on that page. You need an offer so product that they can buy and then you need traffic. So, you know, same way. If you have a shop while in the shop, you need some clothes because if people come to a, a shop that's empty, you make zero money. And then once you have the shop and the clothes you need people to actually get in, it's the exact same thing. So, um, so these are the three pillars of a business. And basically what my system does is that it will answer all of these.


Martin:

these three pillars are sort are sorted by the tool. And then there is a fourth like all the automation backing automation that will basically help you scale the business. So the first one against the, the page, right? So, the page, you know, back in the days you needed like a really full blown website and, and, and stuff like this today is not necessarily the case. So you can get away with a, like a mini website or even like a lending page will be enough. So, what I've done is my main business is affiliate marketing. Okay. And affiliate marketing for people who don't know is I'm basically a middleman between companies who wanna sell a product and consumers who wanna buy the product. So I tell them, Hey, I know company a they're selling these shoes for 50% off. Do you want it?


Martin:

and then they go, they buy and then me, I get a percentage of whatever it is that they paid. So, because I do this now with, I don't know how many, affiliate programs I'm on. I think I'm on like 5,000 affiliate programs, something ridiculous. Wow. Yeah, I have a whole team. That's all they do every day. I know exactly what the, the affiliate managers, what they wanna see, what they don't wanna see, how to get accepted and stuff on that. So based on that, what I've done is I have created a ready, like done for you, website that, my students can import in one click that just press one button, boom it's created for them. And it has every little thing, every checkbox that an affiliate manager will tick to say, okay, I will accept you in, in the program.


Martin:

Right because, so this, this business there is, the reason why I'm saying, I want people to be able to create a business in 72 hours, is that the burden of expertise. So let's say for example, you wanna sell like SEO, for example, right? I'm not an SEO expert. I don't have the, normally I will have the burden of learning SEO for 10 years here in this case. I don't need to know SEO. I just need to find someone who knows about SEO and has a product to sell. Right? So this website is devoted to getting you accepted into high paying affiliate programs where sometimes they can pay you, I don't know, a thousand bucks per sale. I have some programs, they pay me $8,000 for one sale. Right. And I don't, I even know what it is that they're, that they're selling.


Martin:

You know, I don't need to, to be the expert. So this, first component, which is the page, basically pressing a button and then boom, that website is, uploaded. And then every little thing that an affiliate manager will need to say, yes I want you in the program. Is there. I also provide all the templates that I use myself to get accepted to all the programs, because, you know, I'm on like 5,000 or something now. And so that allows someone who has never like you, you've never worked online or anything like this to get accepted into high paying affiliate programs. normally it takes years. You have to demonstrate that you have done this and this and this here in, you know, a few hours you can get accepted. So that solves the first problem of, the page.


Martin:

Then obviously the offer, same thing. The offer is you don't have to be the expert, create a course or something because a lot of people like, dude, I'm just getting started. I don't have the knowledge to go and create a product or something. Well, in this case, you don't have to create the product. You just find a brand that's reputable and then you sell their product and you get a commission. Right? So, here, there is like a whole basically course of how to get accepted. I give all the templates and the acceptance rates is just ridiculous because I I've done it. So, I mean, I have a full team of four people. That's all they do every single day getting me accepted. So we know exactly what works. And also I give, an affiliate program to, newbies where you can make a thousand dollars with one sale, right?


Martin:

You make a sale, you make a thousand dollars. So let's say you make, I don't know, three sales per month, that's it. You have three grand, right? And normally you need to be a super affiliate, you know, meaning, you know, making a lot of money and stuff to get accepted. So that is taking care of now the the biggest problem and the problem that everybody has on the internet is traffic. This is the biggest problem. Everybody has this problem because the rest, you know, it depends on you, right? You sit down in front of the computer, you create your page. It's easy. You put an offer it's easy right now, getting people on that page. There are billions of websites on the internet. Why would they come to yours? And that was the, the main pain point that I saw. Everybody's asking me, oh, how do you get traffic?


Martin:

How do you get traffic and stuff? And I decided to take all the tools that I've, developed over period of like eight years. And then, I basically these are like a lot of tools that were integrated with, with each other. So I, make some connections using, you know, APIs like small tunnels so that they can talk together. And I decided, you know what, I'm actually going to take all of these things. I'm going to recreate a new system. And this system is, it's a thing of beauty. So, let's say for example, your market is, personal trainers. You wanna sell something to personal trainers. all you have to do, there is a search box, you type personal trainers, you specify the city where you want them. And then boom spits a list of personal trainers who are in that city who actually want to be contacted.


Martin:

So it's not like they're gonna be like, while you're contacting me and then you press a button, it will import it in another system. And then that's it. And then it's going to send that to an automation. And you basically make passive income with, with the automation that's behind. So, it's been very fun to create this because my goal was, I want to make it so simple that like a five year old kid could use it and explain it to three year old kids. And I actually had kids, playing with it and explaining to me what it is that it's doing. And you know, after I think the kid was like six, he understood what it was. I was like, yeah. Okay. That's it. It's, done. So now the whole machine is complete.


Martin:

So you have the page, you have the offer, you have the traffic. And in addition, , I added like a component. If you wanna scale your business, you need email automation in the, in the backend to be able to sell more offers and everything. And that is included as well with a free autoresponder, which you know, for those who don't know, the autoresponder is a small robot that will take care of all your communications with your audience, for you. So it will say, okay, on day one, I send them this on day three, I send this and stuff. So it's, it's awesome. I, I have people using the system. so it's been since the beginning of the year that I had some better testers and there was one of he already has like four income streams now, like four, right.


Lindsay:

Crazy.


Martin:

Yeah.


Lindsay:

I was gonna ask you, so like, what is their role then your students, do they need to be out finding the affiliates? And like, they come up with the idea, like I wanna sell to you know, massage therapists or I have, I found this product and I think it would be great for blah, blah, blah. And then they put it in your system, right. That's their role,


Martin:

Their role right now, I wanted to validate the fact that, well, I know it works for me. Right. Because I do it every day. It works for me, but it's, it's very easy if I show you my results, people are like, yeah, but I didn't see you it's normal. So I wanted to prove that look it works for someone who doesn't know anything about anything, like complete beginner. And also, so they go through the system, they can report the bugs, but also they sometimes come up with stuff that I honestly, I never thought of. And I'm like, oh, this is really cool. Like new markets. because I'm not in the market. I don't necessarily know. So, then we, we have calls as well. So it's basically the way it works is, there is a course, but the course is not a course.


Martin:

Like it's not, theory. It's basically, I'm teaching you how to connect the dots. Okay. You click here, you open this, you blah, blah, blah, blah. If you do this, if you ask me 24 hours, the machine is ready, but I know people have lives and stuff to do, right. So basically you follow the course, the machine is now built for you. It's running in the background for you. And, you don't have to touch it anymore. You just have, you know, once a day you put some new leads in there and then that's all you have to do. And the rest of the course is mainly, it's basically, once you've done this, now you have time to actually go and you need to learn about, you know, affiliate marketing and, and stuff like this. Right. So it's basically pointers of how, you know, they can, you know, get better knowledge, how they can scale the business.


Martin:

And also I have some really cool, yeah. Like a really cool strategy where I'm making, it's making me about a thousand dollars every month, uh, from my unsubscribers when people unsubscribe, I make money. Right. I put like a really, really cool method in place there. And it's making me, yeah. I need to check the reports, but something like a thousand dollars, depending on the month between, a thousand and, and $1500 Right. So all these things, there, there are some examples that I show them, but they can think of something else. And then it helps make the, the course a lot better you know, people are in different markets, right? So basically they have the tool for themselves for their own business, you know, so they use my system, some are into, I don't know, health and fitness, some are, you know, consultants and stuff like that. And I just want to show that someone who doesn't know anything in any market can use the system and, and it's gonna work. And I mean, so far, I haven't found, you know, anybody who's in there who hasn't made, uh, you know, commissions and who hasn't built, uh, a system that works. So, you know, I'm very happy about it.


Lindsay:

Interesting. So you started building this out at the beginning of the year, and here we are going into may, how long have your beta testers been using it? Like, since it was since the beginning of the year or midway through this quarter?


Martin:

Yeah. they started using it beginning of the year. I started building it, I think in September last year, something like that. Okay. After talking to one of my, so one of the kids from the orphanage that I volunteer at, I hired him because he's a kid with a bright future. He's a, you know, go-getter and self taught many things. And one thing that I do is, the mentoring that I do with him is more, I want to teach him how I think, not necessarily how, you know, okay, this is how Instagram works, because Instagram might be gone tomorrow. Right. The thing is, I want him to learn how to make decisions for himself. So I show him how I make decisions and stuff. So the, the way it works is usually I will, give him a, like a case study of a big problem that I had in the past.


Martin:

So I explain, okay, this is what I was trying to do. This were the constraints. This, these are the walls that I hit and how would you solve it? So I don't give him my answer. Right. And he has to basically come up with a, strategy of how he will solve that. Right. Then afterwards we compare and, sometimes it branches out to something else like you know, he comes up with something and I ask him more questions to make him think. But anyway, one day I was showing him, I was basically mapping out a funnel and I asked him, okay, what would you do after this? And then he told me I will do that. And I was like, dude, I had never thought of it. And I integrated that then in the tool because it made it a lot easier.


Martin:

So, this is when I got that idea of, okay, let me, based on what he did the suggestion that he gave me, let me build the tool for, for like people who don't know anything. Then put it together So because I had all the, the tools they were, you know, I used them for myself. It was easy to ask my developer, okay. Now let's create the super tool. We integrate everything. And that's why the development wasn't wasn't that long. But yeah, people started using the tool, beginning of the year, like in January. And yeah, I mean again you know, there is one I know he has like four different income streams now.


Lindsay:

That's awesome. You know, that makes me think like my husband and I were just talking about, you know, using passive income to replace our bills. And so rather than saying, oh, I need whatever you need to live on a month, $4,000, $6,000 $8,000. It doesn't matter. But rather than trying to go find this one thing that could replace all that, you know, break it down, like find one passive income stream that could pay your electric bill one passive income stream. That's paying your phone bill. And pretty soon you just keep at it long enough, everything's being covered by passive income. And that's kind of what you're saying. Like now you have the tool to say, okay, well, I got this one going and now it's paying my phone bill. now I'm gonna come over here and come build one for, you know, this. And pretty soon you've got a high one paying your mortgage. And that's just great. Like that's exciting. And the cool part is all these people have regular businesses that they're doing, and now they can do it out of more of a passion for what they do rather than a necessity.


Martin:

Cause it's yeah. That's how I started. So for, at some point I have, so people were asking me, okay, what is it that you do and stuff. And so I decided I made a series of videos. I was showing, was it 27, 28? I don't know, 27 of my income streams. So basically logging on all on all of them. Um, which, you know, I think now I haven't counted, but I might have like 40 or something, you know? I didn't start with 40. I studied with one, but the beauty of the thing, when I create a tool, So now all the tools that I'm creating, I told you I've been creating tools like this year. My main goal is I with this tool, I wanna be able to create one new business per day.


Martin:

That's my goal when I create stuff. So, there, are some, new tools that I've created now, like, you know, stuff for social media to like automate and stuff like that. But that's, that's pretty much the goal. And I wanted someone who doesn't know anything to be able to say in the beginning, let's say, create one passive income per week. You know, it's not necessarily going to make you like five grand per, income stream. Right. But even if it's like 300 here or 200 there, blah, blah, blah, it adds up really quickly. Mm-hmm and then yeah, once your builds are covered, then you, you have a lot more, uh, you know, head space, right. To, because you're always stressed about the bills and blah, blah, blah, once you don't have to worry about that, then beautiful things happen. You have more cap space to think about stuff and you come up with new ideas and then you automate that one and stuff like that. And the more, businesses you've built, the more ideas you get and the quicker it gets, and then it snowballs, you know? So, um, you know, today, again, I can, with the tools that I have today in one day, I can create a new, uh, business. I just need to have an idea. So some, sometimes I go around like, Ooh, I will do that. And one day, you know, I can automate it and put it in place in one day.


Lindsay:

That's amazing. And you know, it's interesting listening to you. I was thinking back to when I started the podcast and how I've had, I've had people on the podcast that talk about affiliate marketing, but I've honestly stayed a little bit clear of too many affiliate marketers. Mm-hmm, not because I, because I think from a passive income perspective, traditionally speaking, it's not very passive in the beginning. It takes a lot of work to figure out, to get in, to learn the system and there's courses. And there's people out there helping people to do that. Yeah. And to, you know, but a lot of 'em that I've researched are really setting people up to sell their own system. Mm-hmm , you know what I mean? Like, yeah. Yeah. They're not teaching, 'em how to build a business from anything they're saying, okay. I sell affiliate marketing courses, become my affiliate and I'll pay you a lot of money.


Lindsay:

And then these people just get sucked in. And that's all they're doing is feeding this guy, gals system. Mm-hmm . And I'm like, I don't, I don't really believe in that. Like, I, I think people should be able to be entrepreneurial. They should be able to create their own without it taking a whole lot of time and effort. And, you know, and affiliate marketing can also be incorporated into blogging and podcasting and just all these things. Anyway. So it's a, it's a, it's not like it's not an important topic, but it's just not something I've put a lot of energy into finding people for, for that, for that reason. Right. But listening to you, I'm like, okay, this makes sense because it's the whole system, it's something people can do. And it's repeatable, like, you know, it's, there's more going on here than just we're selling Martin's course, right. Or whatever. Like a lot of people are out there doing, this is genius. I'm so grateful that you reached out and we're like, Hey, what's going on? Cuz I'm like, man, this is so good. so is this now something that you are bringing to market or when do you think you might have that ready?


Martin:

Uh, yeah, so, my, my goal was 1st of May, but I realized that it's like Sunday or something and I usually don't like to do this because you know, for me done is better than perfect, but there is an update that I, that I'm adding to, one of the backend tools that I use that it's, it's insane. So I I'm delaying the, the, the process, I think mid may that's when I I'm going to start accepting, like people in, you know, there are some people who are already in, because they were in the, the better testers, but mid may, I'm gonna start, accepting, people in the mastermind. It's actually a mastermind where that you have access to me, can ask questions. You're like, okay, this is what I'm trying to do, trying to start this business.


Martin:

I'm in this niche, uh, you know, what could I do and stuff like that, you know, mm-hmm um, so yeah, it's going to be exciting. So I'm like a lone Wolf, you know, so normally I'm not, I'm not good at building like community communities and stuff. It's not me, right. Me, I'm the lab rat behind my automations. And I hide behind that, you know, so I have two of my, of my friends who, they have these, kind of like skills you know, there's, these skills that I don't have, like building communities and all that kind of stuff. So we actually partnered so that they, they can take care of that stuff. And then I can just take care of the lab, rat stuff, you know, in the, in the back end and, and everything.


Martin:

and it's actually very interesting because, um, you know, you, you work with people who are different and who see, you know, so for example, me, I'm not detail oriented, really not I'm big picture. I'm like, yeah, we'll do this. We'll do that. Blah, blah, blah. And sometimes I'm recording the course. I'm like, yeah, we'll give you access to this, to this resource, you know, click the button behind, but I completely forget about it. And then, you know, someone is like, yeah, you need to put the resource there and stuff that I would've forgotten. So it's a, it's actually a good mix. And it's very, um, uh, it's, it's, it is very fun. And, uh, yeah, I'm really excited about it there. I already have a lot of people like, dude, give me access. I wanted, I'm like, yeah, please wait. But yeah it's gonna be, it's gonna be cool. And yeah, we'll see how that goes.


Lindsay:

You know? Okay. Well, this is great because I think this episode's gonna air in August. Actually. I have, I have a little bit of a pipeline, but, so by then you'll have the system up and running and, and good to go. So where will people find it? Do you already have a landing page or do we need to put that in the, yeah, I can record that later.


Martin:

Yeah. I already have something that's that's up. So this is more, this is my, kind of like my style. Right. Everybody has their style. I don't want, I don't like to copy people. So me, I'm the type of person, instead of telling you some story or something, you know, I like to show people, right. I show everything. So basically, uh, if you go to the website, streams, builders.com, so stream like an income stream. So streams, builders.com, then you will see the 27th of my income stream. So I basically log into each and every one of them. So, you know, you can see how much that makes me every month, how many have and stuff like that. And so that people can see for themselves that the system actually works. It works in every possible, different nation, all that kind of stuff.


Martin:

And now, if people now are interested after they've actually seen the results, because I mean, my take is, uh, you want to learn from people who are like believable and believable means that you have actually done it successfully many times. And then, you know, you're not just like, you know, throwing like random numbers and stuff. So some, you know, I don't know. so that's how I like to operate is, you know, go there, check it out if you like it, then you can see what's actually inside the mastermind. And if people are interested, then they can get on a call with me and the team, because one thing is this is also one thing that I like to do is I don't want someone to pay me for something when they're not ready.


Martin:

Right. I don't want someone to, you know, how many courses you buy and then they just stay on the shelf, like a digital shelf. You don't use it. Right. Um, so it's, you know, people are really serious about it. We need to make sure that they're a good fit. We're a good fit because we will have to interact. We'll get on calls and we'll do a lot of things together. And then we actually, we basically, they, need to vet us and we need to vet them. And then if the team says, yeah, you know what, that person will be a good candidate, then they can get in. Right. So there is a, like a selection as well, because you know, someone who doesn't do anything and then complains.



Martin:

Yeah. So, you know, I don't want someone who, you know, doesn't do anything and then say, oh, this, it doesn't work. I want people who are serious. Mm-hmm, , that's the kind of people I like to deal with. I don't, I dunno. It is just me. I'm, uh, I have a, a kind of people I like to spend time with. And yeah, so we have a selection, but yeah, go just, just outta curiosity, just go to the website to type streams, builders.com, and you will see, uh, it's gonna blow your mind. Right. Uh, because some people don't believe me when I tell them, look, I have 40 income streams. They're like, no, it's not possible. even, they're like 27. Um, and then I have other ones, like, you know, real estate and stocks and all that kind of stuff. And some that I built like new ones that I keep building every, every week. Because again, you know, I have the tools to do it now.


Lindsay:

Yeah. Well, I mean, and so I totally get what you're saying about wanting to work with people who are in that frame of mind, because if people aren't ready to actually, and I'm using myself as an example here, because I know like me 10 years ago, if this would've been presented, I would've been like, mm, I don't know. I don't know. You know, like just him hawing kind of like that now I'm like, yeah, I actually have been looking for something like this. And then out of the blue, you've reached out. I'm like, that tells me right there. My mindset's changed because now I'm like, I wanna build businesses that give me freedom, time, freedom. Like, you know, my story, how important it is to, to me to be able to spend time with my kids. And so it's like, it's interesting because even on my entrepreneurial journey, I have watched myself kind of observe myself as I have scaled down. I say, scaled down because I'm scaling down my desire to work hard.


Martin:

Mm-hmm yeah.


Lindsay:

It's like, my threshold for like how much output of energy am I gonna give this thing is getting less, which is the total opposite of what it was 10, 20 years ago, you know, so funny. Oh, man,


Martin:

That energy is just shifted into a different type of work. So the strategy, the thinking like, oh, that that could be cool. And then mapping things out. I love, I mean, you should see how many mind maps and how many things I have. I'm always, my brain is always mapping something. You know, I don't do the operational stuff. I have a low tolerance for operational work now. It's even the simplest thing. I try to get a machine to do it or ask someone to help me out with it. But the strategy that's where that's where all the fun is I really love it. It's and being able to build something from scratch, it didn't exist. You build it. It's uh, it's just amazing. Mm-hmm , you know, so yes. I'm pretty sure you like to do more of this instead of like the operational stuff, you know?


Lindsay:

Yes. Yeah. That is so true. I'm finding myself really into mapping out businesses for people helping them come up with the ideas and, you know, helping them find the people to get it executed. And a funny, when I went into that, I thought, oh, well, should I offer done for you services? And I'm like, Hmm, no, I don't want to. I mean, I can outsource it. Like I I've gotten agencies where I can white label their stuff, but I personally don't wanna be involved building out their funnels and writing emails anymore. Like, I'm just, I could do it but I don't want to, I have zero desire for that.


Martin:

Yeah, yeah, yeah,


Lindsay:

Exactly. Oh, I get it. Well, this is amazing as always. I'm so glad we recorded. What are you calling this program? Is it, is there a name for it?


Martin:

Yeah, it's funny. I keep saying when, when people ask me, what are you working on I'm like, oh man, something ninja. So, It's called the ninja leads mastermind and every single bit of like, so they're like, tools that we have in the, in the mastermind, um, every single one has ninja it like ninja lead finder and then ninja has this. yeah. So that's, that's what is gonna be, it is gonna be called, which is, you know I just like, it's really fun, you know? Yeah,


Lindsay:

I do too. That's great. This is wonderful. Thank you so much for being on the show. Um, you know, what is you have another website don't you, or is this your primary website now?


Martin:

yeah, I will say this one is the streamsbuilders.com. It will tell you everything you need to know. You'll need to read some text and blah, blah, blah. You see the results and then you know what I'm about. So, uh, you know, if after that, you, you're not convinced then, you know, we are not a good fit for each other. I think that's the very best re the resource. Just go there, check it out, you know, uh, again, I mean, this is how I am, right. I, I like when, when people tell me I'll do this, I do that, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, please show me. Right. So that's my style. Some people might love it. Some people might be like, oh, I need some poetry. And for you to ask me to imagine, blah, blah, blah, I can't do this. You know, I show you stuff and then that's it, you know?


Lindsay:

Oh my gosh. Yeah. It's like the landing pages that go on for like a mile I'm like, just get the point


Martin:

yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh, imagine that you could do this. I'm like, no, you know, show me


Lindsay:

That's right. Wonderful. Well, thank you so much for coming, coming back on the show. I'm so grateful.


Martin:

Yeah. Yeah, no problem. Thank you for having me. It was really cool.


Lindsay:

Yeah. My pleasure.


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